Pacific Champion Proposal

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Pacific Champion Proposal

Postby mickysharif » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:54 am

I would like to propose that a KC version of Pacific Champion should be added to KP. Merfolks are currently a very well developed race and I feel they are being neglected duel to the [JP Only] restriction on Champion. Most players on KP tend to play KC, and because of not having an evolution for Merfolk their whole use in decks is becoming weak.

I would like a modified version of the card Pacific Champion, which stays true to its essence and is still useful, to be added to the KC database.

(1)Maybe one that Cost more then the original, making it harder to have more then one, and giving the opponent time to fight back, For example If it cost 3 Mana (instead of 4) then by the forth turn the opponent can use removal such as PoD, or Unicorn Fish etc. Temporary removal would make it harder to come back due to its increased mana cost.

Other then this the effect can also be changed a bit to make it less powerful, but still useful. By either (2)Removing the "This creature can't be attacked by non-evolution creatures." or (3) Removing "This creature can't be blocked by non-evolution creatures." . If it was attackable it won't be totally useless and same is the case it was blockable . ( I personally am more in favor of it becoming blockable )

(4)Another amendment can be a reduction in its power. This would make it easier for it to be removed by power based removals, mostly Fire Spells. A small reduction in its power would be required if you plan to do both (2) and this (3). A power of 4000 , blockable would normally be easy to handle for the opponent. And the chances of a card showing up at the start 2nd or 3rd turn even if you have 4 copies aren't even definite.

(5)Add to its effect "This creature can't attack creatures." I haven't had time to see why it was make JP Only in the first place, but I think its pretty clear by the effect/mana cost. I added this just because I know some of you might consider it, although I feel it really doesn't make much of a difference as the card would mostly be useful only when it is attacking shields as fast as possible.

Which point(s) would you people like to be implemented, to get this card back in KC? Or do you think there is no need to get it back in the first place ? If you have some other opinion you are welcome to share it, but remember the soul and essence of the card must remain unchanged.
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Re: Pacific Champion Proposal

Postby Thomas_Jay » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:23 am

I think a good starting point would be "what is the essence of Pacific Champion?" In terms of game mechanic, what "is" it, and why is it powerful?
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Re: Pacific Champion Proposal

Postby Nerafim » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:43 pm

First of all Micky, I'm kind of disappointed that you haven't realized it yet. The point of a KC errata is to modify the effect of a card, and ONLY the effect. That's why it's an errata. Power and cost can not be changed, so there goes half your suggestions.

And yes, I agree that it is important to look at the essence and soul of the card. But that's also the problem.

The essence of Pacific Champion is just perfectly clear and delivered as it were: "this creature can not be engaged by creatures that defend", and it uses this advantage towards attacking, while being well supported.

It's the essence of the card itself that is overpowered. You can not change that and keep it true at the same time.

Removing either the being attacked or blocked part would again not really be so. Not unreasonable, just still questionably true to the card.

I have seen the "This creature can not attack creatures." effect on cards later in the set, and was used in conjunction with the "can't be blocked/attacked" effects. But that's rather pointless, because Pacific is almost purely a rush card so saem shit.

Adding more conditions to triggering his effect is an option, but that would either kill it practically or not not do enough I imagine.

There is also an important fact that can not be escaped, which seems to be missing from the issue, and that is the fact that Pacific+Spinslicer is kind of a mad synergy Rush, with any sort of reasonable effect Pacific would have.

I very well doubt that Pacific can be erratad reasonably, or Bell would have done so already with the rest of them. You might end up with a kind of different card that people might not mind using tho'.
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